crown            Debate:  Arianism and Orthodoxy in Visigothic Spain    

 

 

 

Proposition:  The Visigoths should remain Arian and not convert to Orthodoxy.

 

 

Remember:  you will be called upon to answer at least one of the questions as part of the debate; you may (should) also take part in other parts if you have things to say that differ from what your teammates have said.

 

Debate:

 

Team 1:  argue for the Proposition

 

Team 2:  argue against the Proposition

 

This debate differs from the first one on taxes.  In this debate, you are not to argue what modern scholars think about the Arian/Orthodox question, but what people AT THE TIME were arguing about the religious status of Christianity in the Visigothic kingdom.  If you are on Team 2, you should ground your arguments in the primary sources I have assigned; if you are on Team 1, you may certainly make references to the primary sources, but you will have to construct arguments based on what you know of the history of the Visigoths, since no Arian writings on the question survive.

 

 

Assigned questions - Team 1:


1.  Background - Describe the history of the Visigoths' conversion to Christianity?  Where and when did it take place?  What names do we have of people involved?

2.  Background - Describe the history of the Visigothic kings from 570 to 586.

3.  Background - What did the Third Council of Toledo actually do?  Who was present, and how was it organized?

4.  Presentation of the proposition:  what is the topic?  what is the basis of your argument?

5.  Arguments - present one argument that favors your side, and illustrate it from a primary source if possible

6.  Arguments - present one argument that favors your side, and illustrate it from a primary source if possible

7.  Arguments - present one argument that favors your side, and illustrate it from a primary source if possible

8.  Do the summary, summarizing your team's arguments and state why they are preferable (you can't do this ahead of time).

 

Assigned questions - Team 2:

 

1.  Background - Describe the history of the Visigoths from 409 to 570, omitting their religious history

2.  Background -  Who was Leander of Seville?  What was his role in all of this?

3.  Background -  What was the reaction of the Visigoths to the Third Council of Toledo?

4.  Presentation of the proposition:  what is the topic?  what is the basis of your argument?

5.  Arguments - present one argument that favors your side, and illustrate it from a primary source if possible

6.  Arguments - present one argument that favors your side, and illustrate it from a primary source if possible

7.  Arguments - present one argument that favors your side, and illustrate it from a primary source if possible

8.  Do the summary, summarizing your team's arguments and state why they are preferable (you can't do this ahead of time).

 

 

 

Primary source evidence

 

All the primary sources that we have were written by Catholic authors; thus, the Arian side is not represented at all.  Those on Team 1 will have to read these sources, read between the lines, and come up with arguments that people might have made for remaining Arian (based on history).

 

Two histories of the Visigothic kingdom were written in the late sixth/early seventh century.  I have put selections from both of these in one PDF file called "VisChronicles.pdf" on Oncourse.  One of these was by John of Biclaro, and consists of a chronicle (a year-by-year listing of events) that includes events from the Eastern Roman Empire (these are the "Romans" and the various emperors), as well as events from the Visigothic kingdom.  I have placed entries for the years 573-592 (pp. 67-80).   In the same PDF file, I have put two entries from the History of the Goths written by Isidore of Seville (the brother of Leander):  first the section that describes the Visigoths' conversion to Christianity (pp. 84-86), and then the section about Leovigild and Reccared (pp. 102-105).  Both of these translations come from K.B. Wolf (trans.), Conquerors and Chroniclers of Early Medieval Spain (Liverpool, 1992).

 

Several documents survive from the Third Council of Toledo; I have put two of these into one PDF file called "Toledo.pdf" on Oncourse.  The first of these is the text known as the Tome presented by King Reccared to the council, which comes from  J.N. Hillgarth (trans.), Christianity and Paganism, 350-700 (Philadelphia, 1986).  The second text is the introduction from the Acts of the Council of Toledo, in which the events of the council are described; this comes from O.R. Constable (ed.), Medieval Iberia (Philadelphia, 1997).

 

 

Information on the Visigoths and Arianism

 

There is good brief summary of Visigothic history (scroll down and read the section on "Historical Background" at http://www.cup.cam.ac.uk/us/catalogue/catalogue.asp?isbn=0521837499&ss=exc

 

In the Resources folder on Oncourse, I have put a PDF file with a selection from Roger Collins' Visigothic Spain, 409-711 (Blackwell, 2004) that covers the years 569-90 (including Reccared's conversion and the Third Council of Toledo)